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The Black Socrates (III) w/Jeffrey B. Perry

The Black Socrates (III) w/Jeffrey B. Perry

May 20, 2022

A giant of both Afro-Caribbean and African-American history, we rejoin Jeffrey B. Perry in his second Legacy appearance covering Volume II of his autobiography and treatment of the one and only Hubert Harrison. Called “The Black Socrates” by Joel A. Rogers, Harrison practically mentored Marcus Garvey, rubbed shoulders with A. Phillip Randolph and Arturo Schomburg and wrote the book on “militant” Negro politics for generations to come.  

Harrison is a name Every Black History program should cover and that every Black freethinker should become critically aware of. But whether you know these names or not,  do stick around. We’re digging in for a rich history lesson on this auto-didactic, radical Black atheist and Pan-African, socialist thought leader. 

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(Ep. 15)  

Show Notes  

Host: Rogiérs  

Writing & Narration: Rogiérs  

Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC 

Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu 

Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC 

Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson 

Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks  

Resources & Mentions 

Jeffrey B. Perry, Official Website 

"Hubert Harrison: The Voice of Harlem Radicalism", Jeffrey B. Perry (Columbia University Press)  

Hubert Harrison: The Struggle for Equality. 1918-1927, Jeffrey B. Perry (Columbia University Press) 

*For discount on online bookstore, use “CUP20” at checkout. 

Sarah Haider, Ex-Muslims of North America (on Twitter

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The ”Black Georgians” w/S.I. Martin

The ”Black Georgians” w/S.I. Martin

May 13, 2022

Who and what were are the “Black Georgians” of the British empire? And how did their struggles of dissent shape our past and present freedom narratives? Author, historian and professor S.I. Martin, from our Legacy program introduces us to these international men and women of mystery, conviction and fortitude.  

The Black Georgians describes Black people in The Georgian era; a period in British History from 1714 to c. 1830–37, named after the Hanoverian Kings George I, II, III and IV. It was a time of immense social change in Britain, the beginnings of the Industrial Revolution class hierarchies and continual warfare. Some are well-known such as Phyllis Wheatley and Olaudah Equiano while others have been forgotten. Nonetheless, all are well regarded as extreme personalities, artists, rebels, abolitionists and even accomplices. 

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(Ep. 14) 

Show Notes

Host: Rogiérs 

Writing & Narration: Rogiérs 

Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC

Assistant Producer, Research: Drai Salmon

Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu

Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC

Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson

Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks.

Resources & Mentions

Perfect Storm: Royals misjudged Caribbean tour, say critics" Rachel Hall & Amelia Gentelman, The Guardian

"How an Accidental Encounter brought slavery to the United States" Rick Hampson, USA Today

Slavevoyages.com*  *Figures are estimates and are rounded to the nearest 100.  

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Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support.

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Forgetfulness & ”The Momentum of Memory”

Forgetfulness & ”The Momentum of Memory”

May 6, 2022

"The Momentum of Memory" vs. "The Violence of Forgetting." Throughout history a well-documented feature of authoritarianism, totalitarian regimes, religious indoctrination and myth-making is the reshaping of collective and individual memory. As a person of African descent, deconstructing religion can yield epiphanies not only in science or theology but in the heavy political histories of ethnicity and provenance.

This episode covers the ways in which forgetfulness, memory laws/loss and short collective memories play into narratives that distort, demean, erase and discriminate. We cover the George Floyd "Year of Reckoning", Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln, 45, my former pastor and the subtle manipulative power of misinformation + forgetfulness imposed on us via religion and culture. 

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(Ep. 13) 

Show Notes

Host: Rogiérs 

Writing & Narration: Rogiérs 

Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC

Assistant Producer, Research: Drai Salmon

Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu

Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC

Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson

Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks, Overjoyed Blue Note Japan Recordings, IMOK Gospel Music, Howard University Gospel Choir

Resources 

Sarah Frostenson, “Aftermath of Year of Reckoning”, Fiver Thirty Eight: A Politics Chat

Michele Norris, "Don’t call it a racial reckoning. The race toward equality has barely begun.", The Washington Post  

Banned Filename, Jr., “Remember fascism was a Catholic problem?”, Medium.com

Stephanie Martin, “Vladimir Putin Quotes the Bible During Pro-Russia Rally in Moscow”,   Churchleaders .com

Jess Blumberg, “A Brief History of the Salem Witch Trials”, Smithsonian Magazine

Frederick Douglass, “An 1876 speech given by Frederick Douglass at the unveiling of the Freedmen’s Monument in Lincoln Park, Washington, DC.”, Digital Public Library of America, University of Illinois

CNN (Chris Wallace) Interview Nicole Hannah-Jones, Author & Professor of Journalism, Howard University

Dr. Greg Carr, Professor, Howard University School of Law &Africana Studies Department 

Music Bed(s) 

“For Your Name is to be Praised” (James Hall Worship & Praise)

“Never Shall Forget” (James Hall Worship & Praise), Howard University Gospel Choir

“Never Shall Forget”, Melvin Crispell & Testimony  

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Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support.

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The Black Socrates (II) w/Jeffrey B. Perry

The Black Socrates (II) w/Jeffrey B. Perry

April 29, 2022

More than 100 years ago a Black skeptic/atheist/agnostic/freethinker from the Danish West Indies framed a conversation on Pan-Africanism, modeled Socialist Black political organizing, advocated for labor rights and progressive Black entertainment in a vaudeville era of American life wreathed in poverty, White Supremacy, World Wars and European Imperialism. This episode continues Dr. Jeffrey B. Perry's presentation on Hubert Harrison-a bridge between Frederick Douglass, Martin Luther King, The Black Panthers, Occupy Wallstreet and BLM. 

Perry reveals all of these connections on with his account of the life of Harrison known as the "Black Socrates,” a freethinking orator, writer and contemporary in the then Harlem Renaissance. Pitifully unsung, all roads to Arturo Schomburg, A. Phillip Randolph, Marcus Garvey, Malcolm X, Martin Luter King, James Brown, James Baldwin, Nikki Giovanni, The Black Panthers, Sista Soulja (and so many more) therefore, lead directly through Hubert Harrison

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(Ep. 12) 

Show Notes

Host: Rogiérs 

Writing & Narration: Rogiérs 

Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC

Assistant Producer, Research: Drai Salmon

Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu

Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC

Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson

Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks and V.Rich/"Ocean of Love" (Out Now!)

Resources & Mentions

Jeffrey B. Perry, Official Website

"Hubert Harrison: The Voice of Harlem Radicalism", Jeffrey B. Perry (Columbia University Press) *For discount on online bookstore, use “CUP20” at checkout.

David Hilliard describes Black Panther Party origins & Ideological Struggles of Class-Coalition Politics (2006)

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Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support.

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The Black Socrates (I) w/Jeffrey B. Perry

The Black Socrates (I) w/Jeffrey B. Perry

April 22, 2022

Who is one of the greatest icons of movement history that you’ve likely never heard of? Someone who 100+ years ago conceptualized Pan-Africanism, modeled new Black political organization, labor rights advocacy, religious dissent and championed (and scrutinized) Black actors, playwrights and entertainers in ways few others would? Who literally stands as a bridge between Frederick Douglass, Martin Luther King and BLM? And who both created language for subsequent Black leaders and mercilessly scrutinized icons like Booker T. Washington, W.E.B. Dubois and others in their blind spots? It is Hubert Harrison.  

The lifelong work of this intellectual Black giant -and his biographer, renowned scholar and author, Jeffrey B. Perry- reveals all of these connections on today’s episode with his account of the life of Harrison. In fact, it may be said that not only is this "Black Socrates” pitifully unsung, but all roads to Arturo Schomburg, A. Phillip Randolph, Marcus Garvey, Malcolm X, Martin Luter King, James Brown, James Baldwin, Nikki Giovanni, The Black Panthers, Sista Soulja (and so many more) therefore, lead directly through Hubert Harrison

This episode is Part I of Jeffrey B. Perry's interview on Harrison from the 2021 Legacy series covering his migration from the Caribbean (now USVI) to the US and his early work as a freethinking orator, writer and contemporary in the then Harlem Renaissance. 

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(Ep. 11) 

Show Notes

Host: Rogiérs 

Writing & Narration: Rogiérs 

Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC

Assistant Producer, Research: Drai Salmon

Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu

Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC

Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson

Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks and V.Rich/"Ocean of Love" (Out Now!)

Resources & Mentions

Jeffrey B. Perry, Official Website

"Hubert Harrison: The Voice of Harlem Radicalism", Jeffrey B. Perry (Columbia University Press) *For discount on online bookstore, use “CUP20” at checkout.

Jamaican poet and LGBTQ activist Stacy Ann Chin reads the account of Bartolomé de Las Casas at Voice of a People’s History of the United States.

"The Devastation of the Indies: A Brief Account". Bartolomé de las Casas, 1542. (Penguin Classics)

"History of the Indies by Bartolome De Las Casas Explained", APUSH Simplified

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Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support.

(c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net 

 
 

 

Conversations!

Conversations!

April 8, 2022

Dialogue, Dialogue, Dialogue! Today’s episode is all about dialogue, reflection and conversation with the co-host and co-creator of Where We’re Headed, Mr. Verdell Wright. If you missed his compelling account of a “Good God Gone” in (Ep. 6) here’s another chance to get acquainted with Verdell and host Rogiérs as they enjoy an open dialogue and process life as a former Minister, Seminarian, Minister of Music, worship leader and SGL Black men. It’s all about the conversation! 

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(Ep. 10) 

Show Notes

Host: Rogiérs 

Writing & Narration: Rogiérs 

Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC

Assistant Producer, Research: Drai Salmon

Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu

Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC

Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson

Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks

Resources 

Dr. Sikivu Hutchinson, “Godless Americana: Race and Religious Rebels"

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Twitter: @WWHPodcasting

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Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support.

(c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net 

Reimagining Community w/Sabrina Dent (II)

Reimagining Community w/Sabrina Dent (II)

April 1, 2022

What is the relevance of "community" at all? Why is it important to apply a critical racial lens in conversation around faith, stigma and our future? How do these dynamics show up when we're not looking? 

On this episode we study the effect(s) of coercion, exclusion and "othering" through subtle acts of religious supremacy in public policy and government. We first look into rhetoric of government officials desperate to preserve cultural notions of straight, White minority and Christian rule in specific arguments contesting "unenumerated rights". Then we conclude  with the voice of Religious Freedom advocate, ally to the Nonbeliever community and Interfaith Advocate, Dr. Sabrina Dent.

Based here in the Washington, DC area, Dent first remarks to Legacy (2020) appear in the previous Episode 8. She has worked tirelessly to reduce stigma among religious minorities-speaking truth to power not only in the public sphere but also within intra-faith circles and organizations.  

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(Ep. 9) 

Show Notes

Host: Rogiérs 

Writing & Narration: Rogiérs 

Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC

Assistant Producer, Research: Drai Salmon

Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu

Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC

Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson

Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks

Resources & Mentions

Dr. Sabrina Dent, President of Center for Faith, Justice, and Reconciliation (Richmond, VA.) 

"In Class with Carr." The Karen Hunter Show, Ep. 107 Dr. Greg Carr. (@AfricanaCarr in #Knubia and Twitter) 

Mark Joseph Stern, Dahlia Litchwick. SCOTUS Legal Correspondents, Host/Co-Host, Slate Amicus Podcast 

Lindsay Graham presses Supreme Court nominee Judge Ketanji B. Jackson on Faith, (March 2022), USA Today  

Dr. Sikivu Hutchinson, “Godless Americana: Race and Religious Rebels"

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Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support.

(c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net 

Reimagining Community w/Sabrina Dent (I)

Reimagining Community w/Sabrina Dent (I)

April 1, 2022

Perhaps one of the biggest slept-on challenges we face moving through life and all its stages is how do we form community, maintain it, hold it accountable, reconcile it and how we discard community in/around us?Sometimes we get it right, sometimes we don’t so much.

On this episode Ro tells a story of a peculiar encounter with a random lady at Eastern Market and we study the historical relationships between American patriarchy, social class and imposition of its faith-based, foundational ideas. Then we invite the much needed voice of a Religious Freedom advocate, ally to the Nonbeliever community and Interfaith Advocate, Dr. Sabrina Dent from her Legacy appearance in 2020. Based here in the Washington, DC area, Dent has worked tirelessly to reduce stigma among religious minorities-speaking truth to power not only in the public sphere but also within intra-faith circles and organizations.  

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(Ep. 8) 

Show Notes

Host: Rogiérs 

Writing & Narration: Rogiérs 

Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC

Assistant Producer, Research: Drai Salmon

Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu

Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC

Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson

Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks

Resources & Mentions

Dr. Sabrina Dent, President of Center for Faith, Justice, and Reconciliation (Richmond, VA.) 

"In Class with Carr." The Karen Hunter Show, Ep. 107 Dr. Greg Carr. (@AfricanaCarr in #Knubia and Twitter) 

Dr. Sikivu Hutchinson, “Godless Americana: Race and Religious Rebels"

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Find the entire LEGACY catalogue of programs online at the Black Nonbelievers YouTube Channel!

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Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support.

(c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net 

”Not my Ancestors?” - Prof. Christopher Cameron

”Not my Ancestors?” - Prof. Christopher Cameron

March 18, 2022

To be or not to be...our ancestors. Over the last few years of Civil Rights protests here within the United States has been common to hear the phrase “I am not my ancestors”. And increasingly, entertainers speaking for African-Americans echo these sentiments in the public sphere. Kanye West, Snoop Dogg, Ice Cube have all gone on-record to openly disclaim, mock and rebuke long-held or respected connections to our forbearers in movement history. What is behind this? Is it fair or accurate to our collective memory or are their comments better explained by cultural bias, shame, anti-blackness and/or poor historical education? Beyond them, how do inaccurate retellings of history similarly play into our perceptions of self, community and resistance?  

In this episode we feature Author and Professor Christopher Cameron for a second discussion, helping us to reshape our view of ancestry and more accurately detail our own history in Black Freethought-related Civil Rights work and the Creative Arts. Cameron is a professor of Professor of History and Interim Chair of Africana Studies at Univ. Of NC Charlotte and Author, Black Freethinkers: A History of African American Secularism.  

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(Ep. 7) 

Show Notes

Host: Rogiérs 

Writing & Narration: Rogiérs 

Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC

Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu

Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC

Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson

Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks

Resources & Mentions

"Black Freethinkers: A History of African American Secularism", Christopher Cameron, Northwestern University Press 

"I Am Not My Ancestors", Z From Baltimore (Spoken Word) 

“West African Ancestral Cults Shows the Belief in Life After Death”, Chinelo Eze, Life 

"Common, Pharrell, and ‘The New Black’: An Ignorant Mentality That Undermines the Black Experience”, Stereo Williams, The Daily Beast 

“Kanye West makes chaotic presidential rally debut in South Carolina”, The Guardian 

“Kanye West says 'slavery was a choice'”, CBC News 

"Snoop Dogg Asks Fans to Boycott ‘Roots’: 'Let’s Create Our Own Shit Based on Today'", Ryan Parker, The Hollywood Reporter 

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Special thanks to the American Humanist Association and the DC Commission on the Arts & Humanities for their support.

(c) 2022 Fibby Music Group, LLC www.FibbyMusic.net 

 

Verdell Wright’s ”Good God Gone”

Verdell Wright’s ”Good God Gone”

March 4, 2022

For Verdell Wright, one of the first and hardest things to let go in his journey out of faith was the idea of "Good God". Because with all that he’d seen around him concerning the historical plight of Black people alone he thought surely, there is no good reason to believe in an omni-benevolence deity. As an individual Verdell realized what he wanted more than anything was peace and freedom. He says, "I didn’t need to wait for my worthiness to be certified before God or myself"...and he’s not alone. 

In this episode Verdell details accounts from a personal memoir as a Black, LGBTQ, neuro-divergent, former clergyman. We are joined directly into his presentation from BNDC's Legacy program in 2020 with co-host, Mandisa Thomas. 

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(Ep. 6) 

Show Notes 

Host: Rogiérs 

Co-host: Mandisa Thomas, Black Nonbelievers

Writing & Narration: Rogiérs 

Production & Editing: Fibby Music Group, LLC

Opening performed by Rogiérs, Reginald & Alesandra Ndu

Recorded at: FMG Studios, Washington, DC

Cover Artwork: Emily Wilson

Music Licensing/Episode Musical Credits courtesy of: Fibby Music Recordings, Storyblocks, AshMinistries, Gospel House Ministries, Inc.

Resources & Mentions

"Why I Stopped Pursuing Ordained Ministry", Verdell A. Wright

"Black Millenials and Christian Faith", Verdell A. Wright

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